AC Line Filter and/or Regulator....What do you use?

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AC Line Filter and/or Regulator....What do you use?

Post by ajm »

12-14-2025

I looked at the forums and hope I have this posted in the best spot.
I did a brief search as well and didn't see anything.

I have all the makings of a bad stew.
An old house with old wiring, assume all outlets ungrounded.
Half a block from several buildings with God knows what antennas on their roofs.
Half a mile from a major international airport.

Details:
I have grounded the house AC outlet that I'm using to a water pipe. AFAIK all of the other outlets in the house are ungrounded.
I have a Furman PL8 rack mounted type power strip plugged into the outlet.
I run my amp and effects (none digital) off of the Furman.
Using a Kill A Watt AC current meter I'm drawing less than 2 AAC total.

Over the past year or so I am getting strange noises coming through the amp.
It's hard to describe but it's sort of a bleeping type sound if that makes any sense.
No CB radio voices.
I have tried several things to try and isolate the problem.
I have even unplugged the guitar and the effects from the amp, and it still comes through the amp alone.
The more overdrive there is the more it comes through.
I have tried other amps, same thing.
I have a wall wart powered old answering machine in another room, and occasionally it comes through faintly on phone messages.

I'm not sure if it's the AC service, or if it's an over the air thing.
I have a feeling it's the service.
I don't know if any of the neighbors have issues, but none of them play guitar.

I have a friend with a battery powered generator that I can borrow.
That is on the to-do list.
In less than a minute I'll probably know if it's an AC service issue, or an over the air issue.

So...........

Does anybody else have a similar problem?
What has been the solution?
An AC filter better than the Furman?
An AC regulator?
Any part numbers?
If it's a service issue, call the electric company?

Thanks in advance.

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Larry Dering
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Re: AC Line Filter and/or Regulator....What do you use?

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Are you laying your cell phone anywhere near the amp? Try turning cell phone off and see if it happens. Turn the amp at different angles and listen.
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Re: AC Line Filter and/or Regulator....What do you use?

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Larry Dering wrote: 14 Dec 2025 8:23 pm Are you laying your cell phone anywhere near the amp? Try turning cell phone off and see if it happens. Turn the amp at different angles and listen.
Definitely sounds like cell phone interference, a phone can induce noise in a pickup or electronics circuit if it's close enough. If the noise was in the electrical service your Furman would catch it.

If you have a ham radio operator broadcasting nearby it is conceivable that airborne interference could affect your pickups but not likely the amp by itself. Go talk to your antenna-laden neighbors. If they are not transmtting RF your problem lies elsewhere.
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Re: AC Line Filter and/or Regulator....What do you use?

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Cell phone nearby (in the house)?
Nope.

HAM transmitting neighbors?
That could be tough to nail down.
Besides, I don't get voices coming through.

Computer nearby?
Nope.

The noise/interference that I'm getting is tough to describe.
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Re: AC Line Filter and/or Regulator....What do you use?

Post by Dave Grafe »

Okay we have ruled out the cell phone but not ham radio interference as sideband interference is the most common kind.

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/q ... y-problems

If you experienced the same issue with other amps and speakers the amp is ruled out. If your second amp used the same speaker for the test the speaker is NOT ruled out. Nearer to home "chirps" can happen with bad patch cables, speaker cables, voice coils, really anything that intermittantly shorts or opens the electron flow.

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